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	<title>Comments on: An Interview with Mikey Weinstein of Military Religious Freedom Foundation</title>
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		<title>By: God and Country &#187; MRFF Highlights its Own Lack of Credibility. Again.</title>
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		<dc:creator>God and Country &#187; MRFF Highlights its Own Lack of Credibility. Again.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 07:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] candidates since he fundraised against his Republican representative in 2006.  Even he admitted I’m a Republican but I’m a Republican who voted for Clinton twice, Gore, Kerry and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Left Behind? Join Your Friends at a Live Streaming Judgment Day Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>Left Behind? Join Your Friends at a Live Streaming Judgment Day Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 11:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] interviewed MRFF’s Mikey Weinstein, I can tell you this is all for the good. Give [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bryon Morrigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryon Morrigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Socialism, like Democracy...is usually a philosophy, rather than a type of government.  (...with exceptions)

Unfortunately, the climate of debate in this country has been muddled by the McCarthy&#039;s and Beck&#039;s of the world, resulting in people who view things like Socialist philosophy as THE END OF FREEDOM, OH NOES!!!  Socialist philosophy has been a part of our gov&#039;t for many years, and our freedoms have not gone away.  In fact, I would argue that we are much more &quot;free&quot; as a society now (with civil rights, women&#039;s rights, much more free speech, etc.) than we were at the beginning of the 20th Century, before all this Socialist philosophy started doing horrible things like improving people&#039;s working conditions, helping the poor and unemployed, and all that other garbage that doesn&#039;t sit well with the Social Darwinist, &quot;Protestant Work-Ethic&quot; types.

I mean, really...the people who rail against Socialism are the same people who use terms like &quot;intellectual,&quot; &quot;college-educated,&quot; and &quot;progressive&quot; as a pejorative.  They try to paint Liberalism as un-patriotic and evil, while ignoring the fact that this government was built upon the Progressive, Liberal ideals of the Enlightenment.

Pish-posh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Socialism, like Democracy&#8230;is usually a philosophy, rather than a type of government.  (&#8230;with exceptions)</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the climate of debate in this country has been muddled by the McCarthy&#8217;s and Beck&#8217;s of the world, resulting in people who view things like Socialist philosophy as THE END OF FREEDOM, OH NOES!!!  Socialist philosophy has been a part of our gov&#8217;t for many years, and our freedoms have not gone away.  In fact, I would argue that we are much more &#8220;free&#8221; as a society now (with civil rights, women&#8217;s rights, much more free speech, etc.) than we were at the beginning of the 20th Century, before all this Socialist philosophy started doing horrible things like improving people&#8217;s working conditions, helping the poor and unemployed, and all that other garbage that doesn&#8217;t sit well with the Social Darwinist, &#8220;Protestant Work-Ethic&#8221; types.</p>
<p>I mean, really&#8230;the people who rail against Socialism are the same people who use terms like &#8220;intellectual,&#8221; &#8220;college-educated,&#8221; and &#8220;progressive&#8221; as a pejorative.  They try to paint Liberalism as un-patriotic and evil, while ignoring the fact that this government was built upon the Progressive, Liberal ideals of the Enlightenment.</p>
<p>Pish-posh.</p>
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		<title>By: Hrafnkell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hrafnkell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But it is socialism - all of it - libraries, roads, schools, etc. The New Deal is universally reviled by conservatives as an example of socialism:

According to The Nation, &quot;During the New Deal, the Roosevelt administration spent about $250 billion (in today&#039;s dollars) on public-works projects, building about 8,000 parks, 40,000 public buildings, 72,000 schools and 80,000 bridges. The entire cost of all the New Deal programs (in today&#039;s dollars) was about $500 billion.&quot;

Schools, libraries, park buildings, roads, etc. Socialism. The Interstate system is also a product of socialism. You cannot claim that medicaid is socialism but that something that, simply because it results in a bridge or a road, is not. 

Since socialism refers to public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources, both Eisenhower&#039;s Interstate system and Roosevelt&#039;s New Deal are socialist - and that was one of the charges brought to bear against FDR when he proposed the New Deal - which included both social welfare and infrastructure spending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it is socialism &#8211; all of it &#8211; libraries, roads, schools, etc. The New Deal is universally reviled by conservatives as an example of socialism:</p>
<p>According to The Nation, &#8220;During the New Deal, the Roosevelt administration spent about $250 billion (in today&#8217;s dollars) on public-works projects, building about 8,000 parks, 40,000 public buildings, 72,000 schools and 80,000 bridges. The entire cost of all the New Deal programs (in today&#8217;s dollars) was about $500 billion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Schools, libraries, park buildings, roads, etc. Socialism. The Interstate system is also a product of socialism. You cannot claim that medicaid is socialism but that something that, simply because it results in a bridge or a road, is not. </p>
<p>Since socialism refers to public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources, both Eisenhower&#8217;s Interstate system and Roosevelt&#8217;s New Deal are socialist &#8211; and that was one of the charges brought to bear against FDR when he proposed the New Deal &#8211; which included both social welfare and infrastructure spending.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane Clemons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane Clemons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Infrastructure can hardly be classified as &quot;socialism at work&quot;. That&#039;s quite a stretch. Libraries, roads, schools, utilities, these are things we expect of our government. Pooling the public monies get much more bang for the buck. Directly taking from one person to subsidize another is a different matter entirely, THAT is socialism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Infrastructure can hardly be classified as &#8220;socialism at work&#8221;. That&#8217;s quite a stretch. Libraries, roads, schools, utilities, these are things we expect of our government. Pooling the public monies get much more bang for the buck. Directly taking from one person to subsidize another is a different matter entirely, THAT is socialism.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When talking about the tea party, you are talking about individuals. There is no central authority. TPN is, mostly, repblican partisans tring to &quot;guide&quot; the movement; but this is like herding kittens. 

Tea Partiers generally stand for one thing and one thing only; fiscal responsability. Most Tea Partiers, myself included, don&#039;t support Palin.  Our reasons may be different, I&#039;ve discounted her because she walked away from her governorship among other things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When talking about the tea party, you are talking about individuals. There is no central authority. TPN is, mostly, repblican partisans tring to &#8220;guide&#8221; the movement; but this is like herding kittens. </p>
<p>Tea Partiers generally stand for one thing and one thing only; fiscal responsability. Most Tea Partiers, myself included, don&#8217;t support Palin.  Our reasons may be different, I&#8217;ve discounted her because she walked away from her governorship among other things.</p>
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		<title>By: Hrafnkell Haraldsson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hrafnkell Haraldsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are the same reactions I&#039;ve gotten from my European friends - shock, horror, disbelief. Like you, I&#039;d prefer their system to ours. There are many socialist aspects to our country already - the Interstates being a prime example of course - and none of them have led to the downfall of our nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are the same reactions I&#8217;ve gotten from my European friends &#8211; shock, horror, disbelief. Like you, I&#8217;d prefer their system to ours. There are many socialist aspects to our country already &#8211; the Interstates being a prime example of course &#8211; and none of them have led to the downfall of our nation.</p>
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		<title>By: snoozepossum</title>
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		<dc:creator>snoozepossum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant to include in that comment that one of the main reasons I was given that socialism is evil incarnate is that it supposedly 1) makes capitalism impossible and 2) is secular and therefore Satan-driven.

The propaganda about the US being founded as a &quot;Godly nation&quot; has been going on for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to include in that comment that one of the main reasons I was given that socialism is evil incarnate is that it supposedly 1) makes capitalism impossible and 2) is secular and therefore Satan-driven.</p>
<p>The propaganda about the US being founded as a &#8220;Godly nation&#8221; has been going on for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: snoozepossum</title>
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		<dc:creator>snoozepossum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t speak for other areas of the country, but I think part of it has to do with people who were raised that &quot;socialism is just communism spelled differently&quot;. I was told growing up in the 70&#039;s that socialism was only a tiny bit less evil than communism, and that the reason so many Europeans immigrated to the US was to escape the horrible living conditions caused by both. Ain&#039;t ethnocentrism great?

When I was in the UK, I talked to several people about NHS and private insurance experiences. Many of them had complaints about NHS, but still said they could get treatment for problems that many of us can&#039;t over here, even if we have insurance. I also got the impression that  private insurance schemes like BUPA don&#039;t seem to find as many ways to deny coverage to existing clients like many HMOs do. We went because my better half&#039;s mother was in hospice care in a nursing home; her caregivers and the facility were beyond excellent. Her nurses were flabbergasted at some of the things that happen over here under the &quot;pre-existing conditions&quot; and &quot;not covered by your policy&quot; ruse. There&#039;s always good and bad in any system, but I think I&#039;d prefer their bads to ours.

My buddy (US citizen) was there as a tourist a couple of years ago and fell and fractured his ankle. He was seen in short order, set and given meds, and scheduled to check back in before he left to go home. No charge. And he wasn&#039;t treated like a bum. I can&#039;t say the same of some of my experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t speak for other areas of the country, but I think part of it has to do with people who were raised that &#8220;socialism is just communism spelled differently&#8221;. I was told growing up in the 70&#8242;s that socialism was only a tiny bit less evil than communism, and that the reason so many Europeans immigrated to the US was to escape the horrible living conditions caused by both. Ain&#8217;t ethnocentrism great?</p>
<p>When I was in the UK, I talked to several people about NHS and private insurance experiences. Many of them had complaints about NHS, but still said they could get treatment for problems that many of us can&#8217;t over here, even if we have insurance. I also got the impression that  private insurance schemes like BUPA don&#8217;t seem to find as many ways to deny coverage to existing clients like many HMOs do. We went because my better half&#8217;s mother was in hospice care in a nursing home; her caregivers and the facility were beyond excellent. Her nurses were flabbergasted at some of the things that happen over here under the &#8220;pre-existing conditions&#8221; and &#8220;not covered by your policy&#8221; ruse. There&#8217;s always good and bad in any system, but I think I&#8217;d prefer their bads to ours.</p>
<p>My buddy (US citizen) was there as a tourist a couple of years ago and fell and fractured his ankle. He was seen in short order, set and given meds, and scheduled to check back in before he left to go home. No charge. And he wasn&#8217;t treated like a bum. I can&#8217;t say the same of some of my experiences.</p>
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		<title>By: Eran Rathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eran Rathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hrafknell said:
I’ve seen Benjamin Franklin described as a progressive and I think this is an accurate label. The man was ahead of his time and as you say, unconventional. The status quo had no interest to him.


Geniuses rarely submit to the status quo - we were exceptionally lucky in the number of geniuses present at the formation of our country (Franklin, Madison, Paine, Jefferson...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hrafknell said:<br />
I’ve seen Benjamin Franklin described as a progressive and I think this is an accurate label. The man was ahead of his time and as you say, unconventional. The status quo had no interest to him.</p>
<p>Geniuses rarely submit to the status quo &#8211; we were exceptionally lucky in the number of geniuses present at the formation of our country (Franklin, Madison, Paine, Jefferson&#8230;)</p>
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