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	<title>Comments on: From Bronze Age to Enlightenment…and Back?</title>
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		<title>By: snoozepossum</title>
		<link>http://politics.pagannewswirecollective.com/2010/03/06/from-bronze-age-to-enlightenment%e2%80%a6and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-1007</link>
		<dc:creator>snoozepossum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, once you&#039;ve hit Tonsil Application, there prolly ain&#039;t much external material left . . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, once you&#8217;ve hit Tonsil Application, there prolly ain&#8217;t much external material left . . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Ananta Androscoggin</title>
		<link>http://politics.pagannewswirecollective.com/2010/03/06/from-bronze-age-to-enlightenment%e2%80%a6and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-992</link>
		<dc:creator>Ananta Androscoggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering the size of the stick up some of their butts, and how far it&#039;s been shoved up, I&#039;m amazed that they can even get underwear on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the size of the stick up some of their butts, and how far it&#8217;s been shoved up, I&#8217;m amazed that they can even get underwear on.</p>
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		<title>By: Hrafnkell Haraldsson</title>
		<link>http://politics.pagannewswirecollective.com/2010/03/06/from-bronze-age-to-enlightenment%e2%80%a6and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-987</link>
		<dc:creator>Hrafnkell Haraldsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Thanks for the laugh, snoozepossum. Good way to start the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Thanks for the laugh, snoozepossum. Good way to start the day.</p>
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		<title>By: snoozepossum</title>
		<link>http://politics.pagannewswirecollective.com/2010/03/06/from-bronze-age-to-enlightenment%e2%80%a6and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-984</link>
		<dc:creator>snoozepossum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re not just real good at sailin&#039; down that river in Egypt, they packed a big cooler and a change of underwear for a long trip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re not just real good at sailin&#8217; down that river in Egypt, they packed a big cooler and a change of underwear for a long trip.</p>
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		<title>By: Hrafnkell Haraldsson</title>
		<link>http://politics.pagannewswirecollective.com/2010/03/06/from-bronze-age-to-enlightenment%e2%80%a6and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-982</link>
		<dc:creator>Hrafnkell Haraldsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crazy isn&#039;t it? A complete refusal to stare facts in the face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crazy isn&#8217;t it? A complete refusal to stare facts in the face.</p>
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		<title>By: Ananta Androscoggin</title>
		<link>http://politics.pagannewswirecollective.com/2010/03/06/from-bronze-age-to-enlightenment%e2%80%a6and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-979</link>
		<dc:creator>Ananta Androscoggin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet the Constitution itself states that treaties entered into by the United States shall thereafter become a part of the Law of the Land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet the Constitution itself states that treaties entered into by the United States shall thereafter become a part of the Law of the Land.</p>
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		<title>By: Hrafnkell Haraldsson</title>
		<link>http://politics.pagannewswirecollective.com/2010/03/06/from-bronze-age-to-enlightenment%e2%80%a6and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-964</link>
		<dc:creator>Hrafnkell Haraldsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eran, I think that&#039;s pretty clear too and that reference came up in my interview with Mikey Weinstein. Yet the fundamentalists try to wiggle out of that one too - I&#039;ve run into their insistence that it means nothing on more than one occasion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eran, I think that&#8217;s pretty clear too and that reference came up in my interview with Mikey Weinstein. Yet the fundamentalists try to wiggle out of that one too &#8211; I&#8217;ve run into their insistence that it means nothing on more than one occasion.</p>
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		<title>By: Eran Rathan</title>
		<link>http://politics.pagannewswirecollective.com/2010/03/06/from-bronze-age-to-enlightenment%e2%80%a6and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-963</link>
		<dc:creator>Eran Rathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the words of the Founding Fathers themselves:

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

1791, Treaty of Tripoli.  Signed By John Adams, negotiated at least in part by Washington, ratified by unanimous consent by the Senate, many of whom were Founding Fathers themselves.

I&#039;d say that is pretty clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the words of the Founding Fathers themselves:</p>
<p>Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.</p>
<p>1791, Treaty of Tripoli.  Signed By John Adams, negotiated at least in part by Washington, ratified by unanimous consent by the Senate, many of whom were Founding Fathers themselves.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that is pretty clear.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryon Morrigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryon Morrigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While facts may not necessarily be open to interpretation...it is often the way the facts are presented that creates the bias.

Take a look at modern news outlets, and their reporting of an issue.  For example, take a look at the different ways that the same issues are reported on the different news channels.  I won&#039;t get into specific examples, (to avoid starting THAT debate right here) but it&#039;s pretty obvious that anyone can spin just about any news story into a &quot;win&quot; for their own particular political cause.

And that&#039;s with CURRENT events.  Now imagine &quot;spinning&quot; something that happened hundreds of years ago, when your audience is largely composed of uneducated people who have no idea that there is another viewpoint.  THAT is the problem with certain kinds of historical revisionism, and why books like that &quot;Politically In(accurate)correct Guide to...&quot; series are so disgusting.  It&#039;s taking advantage of uneducated people for propaganda purposes.  Sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While facts may not necessarily be open to interpretation&#8230;it is often the way the facts are presented that creates the bias.</p>
<p>Take a look at modern news outlets, and their reporting of an issue.  For example, take a look at the different ways that the same issues are reported on the different news channels.  I won&#8217;t get into specific examples, (to avoid starting THAT debate right here) but it&#8217;s pretty obvious that anyone can spin just about any news story into a &#8220;win&#8221; for their own particular political cause.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s with CURRENT events.  Now imagine &#8220;spinning&#8221; something that happened hundreds of years ago, when your audience is largely composed of uneducated people who have no idea that there is another viewpoint.  THAT is the problem with certain kinds of historical revisionism, and why books like that &#8220;Politically In(accurate)correct Guide to&#8230;&#8221; series are so disgusting.  It&#8217;s taking advantage of uneducated people for propaganda purposes.  Sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryon Morrigan</title>
		<link>http://politics.pagannewswirecollective.com/2010/03/06/from-bronze-age-to-enlightenment%e2%80%a6and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-955</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryon Morrigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is actually quite easy to prove that a nation, such as ours, was NOT founded as a &quot;Christian Nation.&quot;  It would be much harder to prove an affirmative in this case.

The mere fact that Jesus, Christ, Christian, etc., do not appear, while Deist terms like &quot;Nature&#039;s God&quot; and &quot;Creator&quot; do...should have been enough to end the debate...  It is BECAUSE of the fact that our founders were a fairly diverse group of people that they sought to create a gov&#039;t not bound by any religious dogma.

(BTW, the book &quot;The Faiths of the Founding Fathers,&quot; by David L. Holmes, is a fairly impartial look at the Founders&#039; religious beliefs...or non-beliefs, as it were.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is actually quite easy to prove that a nation, such as ours, was NOT founded as a &#8220;Christian Nation.&#8221;  It would be much harder to prove an affirmative in this case.</p>
<p>The mere fact that Jesus, Christ, Christian, etc., do not appear, while Deist terms like &#8220;Nature&#8217;s God&#8221; and &#8220;Creator&#8221; do&#8230;should have been enough to end the debate&#8230;  It is BECAUSE of the fact that our founders were a fairly diverse group of people that they sought to create a gov&#8217;t not bound by any religious dogma.</p>
<p>(BTW, the book &#8220;The Faiths of the Founding Fathers,&#8221; by David L. Holmes, is a fairly impartial look at the Founders&#8217; religious beliefs&#8230;or non-beliefs, as it were.)</p>
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